Monday, March 26, 2012

Laura's response to Mansfield Park

1.  What do you think of Fanny Price as the heroine of this novel?
     Yes......Fanny had a difficult life although she seemed happy at home with the horrible living conditions.  Being separated from her family and living with new family members with not the greatest of morals, Fanny kept her self worth intact.  Fanny was and self assured women. 

2.  What kind of role does family play in the development of individual characters?
     A huge role.......because Fanny comes from a poor family who loved each other even though they were poor and she went to live with relatives that had very questionable morals and behavior toward each other and to others, especially towards Fanny, they treated her like a servant even though she was family, and they were never really nice to her.  But Fanny did stay true to herself. 

3.  How did the Crawford's (Mary and Henry) affect the family dynamics?
     The Crawford's came into the family and turned it upside down for awhile.  To me they seem to want to cause trouble for there own amusement.  I did not like the Crawford's. 

4.  Why do you think Edmund is drawn to Mary?
     I feel he was drawn to her for her looks and her sophistication, but eventually her true personality came through and she was no longer pretty to Edmund. 

5.  Do you think Henry actually fell in love with either Maria or Fanny, or is he more of a player? 
     No I do think Henry was a player of his day.  I do not think Henry is capable of love.  
 
6.  Should Fanny have given Henry a real chance? Or was she right to refuse his proposal?
      No Fanny was smart enough to see through Henry's bad ways.

7.  Edmund seems to always turn to Fanny for her input.  Why do you think her opinion is important to him? At what point do you think they fall in love with each other? 
     Edmund and Fanny were close from the moment she moved in, there was  a deep connection between them.  I think he fell in love with her the first time he met her but did not realize it was love til later. 

8.  How does Mansfield Park compare to the other two Austen novels we have read? Do you feel like Mansfield Park is more or less complex then Sense and Sensibility and Pride and Prejudice?
     All 3 novels were different, i would have to say Mansfield Park is more complex.  Between the strange sexual stuff and the infiltration of Henry and Mary and the way her relatives treat her and each other made this novel more complex.  I was really surprised that Jane Austen wrote about the sexual stuff and even knew about that kind of stuff......because of the times in which she lived in, i did not think i would have encountered that. 

9.  Which character did you relate most closely to in this novel and why? 
     I would have to say Fanny......because i would stay true to myself like Fanny did, I would speak my thoughts like fanny did, I try to be strong like fanny, although fanny makes it all look so easy.  
   
10.  Do you think Mansfield Park is something of a morality tale, a story that has a sort of moral lesson in it?  Yes.....all you have to do is look at the two families.

11.  Would you recommend this novel to a friend?
       Yes i would, i really liked this one.


Laura mention's

I agree with Brenda......I did notice the same thing that the fathers in all her novels are either weak, immoral especially in this novel and i wonder why, could it be that is what she see's?

Sunday, March 25, 2012

Laura's response to Northanger Abbey

1. Northanger Abbey was first book Austen sold, but one of the last to be published. After reading four of her other novels, could you tell this was an earlier piece of work from Austen. Why or why not? 
No i was surprised when i heard it was the first Austen's works, I thought she wrote this one in the middle of the other novels.  I felt like this novel was so different that she wanted to write something different from her other novels.  Looking back after reading all the novels i would like to have seen her write another novel outside of the romantic scope, i would like to have seen what more she could have done with a non romantic novel.
2. Imagination played a large role in Catherine's character, did you find this enjoyable to read or frustrating? 
Well i can not say it was enjoyable, but i liked how she wrote the story and found the story fascinating.  For me this novel was hard to put down, I loved her imagination, it felt like it was really happening.
3. Do you believe Northanger Abbey is a love story or coming of age story? Explain.
I felt like it was a coming of age story.  I agree with Rachel with something Jane Austen seems to repeat in her novels that the suddenly comes to an end and putting and engagement at the end was strange.  To me this book did not have any romance.
4.  How does Catherine Morland compare to Austen's other heroines that we have read? 
She is very young and not worldly and has wild thoughts and imagination.  This book was different in that there was not a main character looking for a husband but showing more of an active imagination through the book.
5. Were you able to personally relate to any of these characters? If so who and how? 
No 
6. Would you recommend this novel to a friend?
Yes I would recommend this novel, i liked how different it was.

Saturday, March 24, 2012

Answers to Question for Persuasion

1.  How does persuasion play a role throughout this novel?
Persuasion does play a big role in the story.  Persuasion is a staple of our lives and especially in Jane Austen's time.  
2. Did you like the ending of this story? Why or why not?
Yes I loved it.  Jane Austen again brought romance out again in a great story.  I loved the letters between the Captain to Anne, they really were truly romantic.  But again the story ends so suddenly.
3.  Would you recommend this novel to a friend?
Yes i would recommend this novel and all her novels.
4. Of all the characters Jane Austen created, who was your favorite and why? 
My ultimate favorite characters are Marianne and Col Brandon of Sense and Sensibility.  I felt like a young girl that had a false feeling of romance and the world grew up and with growing up and coming into reality she found love with someone unexpected and Col Brandon finally found love he so desired.
5. Was there anything you disliked about Jane Austen novels?
The one thing I disliked was how her ending just end.  I would be reading the second to the last chapter and thinking how is she going to end this with these few pages, it's almost like she had to get it done in a hurry.
6.  Now that we have read all of Austen’s novels (well at least all her complete novels), which one did you relate to the most? Which was your favorite? And why.  
My favorite is still Sense and Sensibility.   I love every part of that book. I have to say I have never seen or read Northanger Abbey before and that one really surprised me, it was different and it really kept my interest, i really enjoyed it.
      

Friday, March 23, 2012

Brenda's Response to The Help


1.  Who was your favorite character and why?
I really thought it was a great cast of characters.  All of them, the black ones and the white, they all had really interesting personalities.  I guess my favorites were, Aibileen, Minny and Skeeter.  I liked Aibileen because of her down to earth matter of fact simple approach to life.   She always seemed to have an instinct for what was best for Mae Mobley and a common sense about life in general.  I liked Minny because she seems so tough on the outside yet I always got the feeling she was sensitive on the inside.  For example putting her pie story in the book to protect everyone.  And she always seemed to like things to be fair.   I really liked Skeeter a lot too.  She was very likable and I liked how she handled her life in general.  She was kind to her parents, and she had a sympathetic heart and a clear vision of how humans should treat each other.  I liked that she risked so much to get her book written, and I loved the friendships that were formed between her and so many black ladies as a result of the writing process of her book.  In the end I got a real feeling that all these women really cared about each other and that the color of their skin never mattered to them and that each one was intelligent and had a very interesting life. 
2.  Life has changed dramatically since the times in which this book is set. What part of 1960s life in Mississippi do you find most shocking?
As we grow up we learn in history class and read in books all the time about slavery and how afterwards in the 50’s and 60s and 70’s black people were treated badly but this book gave us a look into that history.  The thing I found most shocking was the realization that I was born in 1960…..That these things have happened in my life time.  That had I lived a little further south I could have easily been Mae Mobley and had a black housekeeper.   One thing that stood out and that I loved about this book was how the children that were in this story had no prejudice.  They loved their black maids more then their own mothers in most cases.  I found the amount love these black women gave to the white children they cared for to be very sweet.  This story took us to a place in our very own history, our own country, and gave us a glimpse into this Southern life in the 60’s and although some things like the segregation and the separate toilets and the fact that white folks found black folks to be dirty and diseased (which wasn’t true) and treated them below themselves, things like that were very shocking.  But I also felt that on some level it was presented in a way that made everyone black and/or white just seem very human, with a lot of the same human emotions and worries and needs. Ya the most shocking thing to me was the realization that these views and attitudes by whites towards blacks has happened in my life time and when I think Way Way Way back I can remember these attitudes and views of blacks being discusses in my own grandparents kitchen in St Louis Missouri.

3.  How much of a person’s character would you say is shaped by the times in which they live?
Gosh, I would say some of a person’s character is shaped by the times they live in but not all of it.  I think some is shaped by how you are raised and what your heritage is and whom you are surrounded by.    

4.  What did you think about Minny’s pie for Miss Hilly? Would you have gone as far as Minny did for revenge?
Ha ha ha ha ha…….I was so surprised when I read this part.  I found it so hilarious, but definitely in character for Minny.  That Minny she’s a feisty one.  It kind of felt good to see someone like Miss Hilly get what was coming to her.  Would I have done it…….I don’t know, I can’t picture doing it, but Miss Hilly certainly did deserve it. 

5.  How did you feel about the ending?
I felt like the ending was very abrupt.  I was reading along and it just ended, bam, it was done.  But upon reflection I came away from this book feeling good.  Like they were all going to be okay in their new lives.  I felt sad for Miss Leefolt I felt like she was the only character that didn’t find any kind of inner strength or growth to move forward in life in a positive way.  She seemed to be Miss Hilly’s puppet and allowed Miss Hilly to dictate to her everything she should do and feel.  She was a horrible mother and I came away from the book hoping that Mae Mobley and Li’l Man were going to be okay without Aibileen.   Some how I don’t think they will, they still needed Aibileen.   But hopefully she will hire another maid who will love those kids just as much as Aibileen did.   In the last scene when Aibileen got fired for no reason at all except the lie Miss Hilly was telling, I kind of got the impression that Miss Leefolt was sad to see Aibileen go and didn’t really want to fire her, but she was just to weak of a person a couldn’t stand up against Miss Hilly and allowed her to walk all over her.   I was glad that Minny finally broke away from her abusive husband too.  I had hope in the end that she was going to finally be okay too.  I just wish the author would have wrapped everything up a little better at the end I guess. 

6.  Would you recommend this novel to a friend?
Oh yes I definitely would in fact I have recommended it to a couple of people already.  This was a really Great book.  It captured my attention right away and by mid way through it I was having trouble putting it down.  There were 2 nights that I stayed up till 4 a.m. reading it. 

Thank You so much Rachel for selecting such a wonderful first read for us this New Year.  I thought this was a perfect book for our book club and it is going to be hard for us to match it with our selections. 
I have just a couple more comments that I didn’t include in my answers, First I am curious, How did this book make you all feel?  I just finished reading it today and for a few hours after I finished my brain was going a million miles and hour with lots of feelings both happy and sad.  This book felt really real, like we were spending a few years in these people’s lives.  And I kept putting myself in each of their shoes, how would I feel if I were Skeeter, or Aibileen, or Minny or Hilly, or Celia, or Elizabeth etc…..  I wonder what the movie is like.  How detailed will they get, will they show some of the more sad and upsetting things like when Celia miscarried her baby.   
Secondly, The way this writer wrote the black ladies as if they were speaking in their black lady way was BRILLIANT!!!!!!  It was like Aibileen was in my head when I was reading her sections.   The way the words were written in this book had a way of turning me into a southern black women of the 60’s as I read. What an interesting thing to do for a white author.  Brilliant!!!!!
Third, After all is said and done I really felt like this was a very inspirational book about perseverance and doing the right thing not the popular thing, or the thing that everybody else is doing (i.e. Skeeter, the way she went against her social group and lived the way she thought was right, telling the story she thought needed telling etc….I loved Skeeter) and about remaining true to who you are.  
Some books when you read them sort of change you a little bit.  They make you grow.  I’m still running this book in my head and probably will for a few more weeks, and maybe I will have further comments for our blog soon.   But for now I am glad to have read this one, It was inspirational to me, and I am looking forward to Saturday when Rachel and I will be watching the movie together.  It will be interesting to see these characters and this story come to life on the big screen. 
GREAT Read……Thanks again Rachel for such a wonderful selection!!!!!!!! 

Monday, March 19, 2012

Laura's response to The Help

1.  Who was your favorite character and why?
I really loved this book, GREAT choice Rachel.   I have to say that i liked all the characters except for Miss Hilly, it is people like her that keep gossip and hate going.  I loved Minny and Aibleen and Celia the most.  I loved Minny because she was feisty and by the end of the book i feel she truly cared for Miss Celia.  Minny became alittle more softer, she even helped Skeeter with her book.  I Loved Aibleen because she loved Mae Mobley  and her brother so much.  She was very easy going and took a great risk with helping Skeeter with the book and in the end she lost her job but at the same time she gained something better and not just with a job.  I really loved Minny and Celia story, I felt sorry for Celia and she needed and depended on Minny and by the end of the book i really feel like they truly cared for each other.

2.  Life has changed dramatically since the times in which this book is set. What part of 1960s life in Mississippi do you find most shocking?  I truly don't understand why white people in the 60's had a problem using the same bathrooms as a black person. or have a problem eating at the same places or be friends with black people, or going to school with them.  I don't understand why white people looked down on black people. Why did White people have such a hatred towards black people. Is the hatred there because Lincoln freed the slaves? and white think we should still have slavery even in the 60's?  If so, slavery  was so long ago and by the 60's i would have thought that white people would feel that slavery was wrong and black people are people with feelings,  and love and we should embrace them because our ancestors did a wrong thing.  Something that made me think long and hard that the book made loud and clear was how afraid black people were and how the book made me understand why they had that fear and how sad that they had to live in so much fear, i don't think i truly understood there fear until i read this book.

3.  How much of a person’s character would you say is shaped by the times in which they live?
Alot actually because i see that same thing with me and Mary.  Times are so very different now vs the 60's although we still have deep seeded feelings in the South, especially the deep South, but it is not as bad as it was in the 60's.  When a person is around events that happen or around how people are  treated that is what shapes our character for example.....I was not born in the south so growing up i did not see the hatred towards black people so i have no problems with them, i like them. But now that i live in the south i see and hear how people think of black people and treat black people and feel we have a ways to go. I have also seen the attitude being passed from parent to child as well.
4.  What did you think about Minny’s pie for Miss Hilly? Would you have gone as far as Minny did for revenge?     I thought the pie was funny and i was glad she did it.  Miss Hilly was not a nice person to anyone but especially to black people, she deserved it.   Yes i would have done it.

5.  How did you feel about the ending? 
It made me mad and sad.  Miss Hilly was so mean to get Ailbleen fired, it was so mean spirted and what really made me mad was she had the nerve to tell (bully) someone into firing her.  It made me sad because Miss Leefolt listened to Miss Hilly but i felt like she really did not want to fire her, she needed her but that Miss Hilly bullied her into it because of the times, she had to because Hilly had the voice and the power over people, I was hoping Miss Leefolt would say NO I am not going to fire her i need her and you have no business telling me to get rid of her.  But maybe change was necessary for Aibleen and taking Skeeters job was not such a bad change after all.
6.  Would you recommend this novel to a friend?  I was only on Chapter 10 and i was telling my gym friends to read it, that is a really great book and how much i was enjoying it.  I really want to see the movie now.  




I really enjoyed reading this book and recommend it to everyone.  This book really made me think about how bad those times were and how much fear they had and how there fear was understandable and how the 60's had small changes with blacks and whites and how those small changes eventually turned into bigger changes.  Thanks Rachel for picking this book!

Sunday, March 18, 2012

Brenda's Book Selection

Hello Fellow Book Clubbers,

WOW, our new year of reading is off to a wonderful start. GREAT choice Rachel with "The Help". I'm so close to finishing it, and I plan on answering the questions this weekend, I can't wait to read all your answers, I can't wait to see what you all thought of.... The Help.

Thank You Rachel for posting our schedule for the new year. I see that I am next on the schedule to choose a book, and that my selection begins tomorrow, So I guess you are all wondering what our new book is going to be............

I have been trying to make this decision, and finally narrowed it down to 5 choices. My decision was hard because I really want to read all 5 of these books, but I know I can can only choose one for now.

Soooo.......In the end I went with the one I originally wanted to read.  It has a movie that we can watch after we read the book, and of course YOU KNOW ME, I have gone for a Love Story............Ahhhh!!

So here it is..........




Drum roll please..........................





Our New Book is................




"Somewhere in Time" by: Richard Matheson



I hope you enjoy it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Happy Reading!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I LOVE BOOK CLUB!!!!!!!!!!
With Warm Hugs to all,
Mom/Brenda/Aunt B

P.S. I looked it up and this book is available on both Nook and Kindle for 6.99. It is also available to order from Barnes and Noble. I have sent you a picture of the cover in your regular email's.....(I couldn't get it to cut and paste into this note).....this shows you the cover of the book in case you want to go to a book store and buy a copy. Happy Reading!!!!!
 

Sunday, March 11, 2012

Discussion Questions for The Help

1.  Who was your favorite character and why?

2.  Life has changed dramatically since the times in which this book is set. What part of 1960s life in Mississippi do you find most shocking?

3.  How much of a person’s character would you say is shaped by the times in which they live?

4.  What did you think about Minny’s pie for Miss Hilly? Would you have gone as far as Minny did for revenge?

5.  How did you feel about the ending?


6.  Would you recommend this novel to a friend?